Is the Left Trapped in the Spectacle?

productive day so far

 
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Scott Ritter's latest
end 7th m: "..roughly divided, that's what makes it so dangerous"

not necessarily ... hi potential for a clean break up ... like hitting the middle of a dry branch on a rock ... saves u wear n tear if u get the knackrack of it .. first one down .. 499 to go before we're back to red nations numbers ... and whities 'realed' instead of all this diabolically bible vectored 'red' larpery. i know 'repotranswokereez can't do anything but hurt [initially, but it's the price of 'betterafterbitter .. amer i can 'land', trust me] if you're born there and u'll go 'easy for you to say, with your legs either side of the atlantic' [well, half of the eighties at least, more than enuff] ...
Much has been said and is being said about Dees, 007s, popstars and world leaders of the sky pendelariae but never that 'they were good injuns' .. i intend to break THAT mold once and for all #WinonaLaDuke2024 !!! .. or equivalent .. the sweet sweet NoDapple lady for instance ... the one i lost site of. Tell her hello and thanks for me if you know ... i think i have one screenshot and i ought to try trawl 4 her name in my Votan files at archive.org prolly.
ps: many many thanks to u two too btw.

VERSION 2:
end 7th m: "..roughly divided, that's what makes it so dangerous"

not necessarily ... hi potential for a clean break up ... like hitting the exact middle of a dry branch on a rock ... saves u sawin wear n tear if u get the knackrack of it, if not it'll hurt .. specially if enuff moisture remains to transfer energy# .. first one down .. 499 to go before we're back to red nations numbers ... and whities 'realed' instead of all this diabolically bible vectored 'red' larpery.

 i know 'repotranswokereez like 'at can't do anything but hurt [initially, but it's the price of 'betterafterbitter .. amer i can 'land', trust me] if you're born there .... and u'll go 'easy for you to say, with your legs either side of the atlantic' [well, half of the eighties at least, more than enuff] ...

Much has been said and is being said about Dees, 007s, popstars and world leaders of the sky pendelariae but never that 'they were good injuns' .. i intend to break THAT mold once and for all ..

#WinonaLaDuke2024 !!! .. or equivalent .. the sweet sweet NoDapple lady for instance ... the one i lost site of. Tell her hello and thanks for me if you know ... i think i have one screenshot and i ought to try trawl 4 her name in my Votan files at archive.org prolly.

ps: many many thanks to u two too btw.
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# = just occurs to me that western media is 'dermate' rotten [come to the Koopmans and Co Erasmus Lab in Rotterdam to learn rottery trix]
.... that they'll saw onNon bout currents dyin even as the jetstream speeds and stiffens .. but me beggin for watering holes instead of miles on asphalt when it comes to farm pertection and permie perfection ... ???
i am 'doodgezwegen' / shadowbanned since the noughties ...
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# = just occurs to me that western media is 'dermate' rotten [come to the Koopmans and Co Erasmus Lab in Rotterdam to learn rottery trix]
..... that they'll saw onNon bout currents dyin even as the jetstream speeds, stiffens and delivers [hozen / hoosbui = bail {from boats 'making' water AND types of rain. to wit: strong ... hey, Tonga happed on my galactic BD folks .. and that's a Valum Votanian phAct, a fairly fair white injun w mexroots btw, art historian, drunk, buddhist and 'CultSure leader].. but me beggin for watering holes instead of miles on asphalt when it comes to farm pertection and permie perfection ... ???
i am 'doodgezwegen' / shadowbanned since the noughties ...

https://rumble.com/v56xhz1-ask-the-inspector-ep.-177-special-report-trump-assassination-attempt.html
just before 6am:
a few minutes later Scott says "you don't see them..." [demonize their opposition].
well, i do ... just did in my first comment here mof, BUT .. my solution differs [let a 1000 #ZiOpPens bloom #1000ZioPenBloom boombirdieboom :: 'boom' is tree in dutch btw] .... i'd like to lose my monopoly on it asap btw ... it's my karmic curse .. i mean challenge .. so if you refuse to 'find' [fund n formalise] i'll understand and won't take it personally.



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i got to minute 21 and have 3[in1] more amendments already:

deepstate = warfeed, warprofit steadyin DarpaLarpa,

 elections don't change THAT subject

 .. but they'll be happy to change the pabulum package, the 'subject' [maarnieheus / figure/ground conundreamfever laster than you can say media]

.. they'll accommodate and honor the results, the tallied, turfed and tabulated delegation crime bill of the people .. and quickly #MinorDiffNarc it down to matters of 'INFLECTIONS' [lawchanges concerning them have been staple war ignition and fuel in the Pale since waaaaay back - Donbas, etc, = direct result of CIA {OpenDeep State World Woke Commisions and Kommisa Rappariszion} installed language laws enforced thru out Ukieland and beyond the Pale enviros] .. i got a Mike Benz follow out of remarking that under his long version rumble vid with the UK fella this week so it bears 'rePieting'







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6h55 to 2h9, a mere minute after chidin his co-host for endangering the channel w hopes for violence unto Trump [a big fat lie, since he is fasholeftarian thru n thru] he could have made his point consistent as opposed to doubled down schizo by adding three little words to "taken out" ... any guesses? ... how about 'of the race' ... StiLL not enough practice????


troy bellamy on giants



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Mark ontraadt CHD - 6m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2raCsMIL9w
hey mark, .. patiently waiting 4u to finish finessing the 2h50m long show from a few days ago ... hope you don't decide to 'legasee' it .. i was lookin forward to finishing the last half hour ....

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constantly stealing each other's weapons and disguises, invading each other's hide outs, humans prove they are animals incessantly
the polapendulum rise slot machine, phat big toxifically mediated 6toinfinity mirror boxes, slabs, chips, confettis, fumes and seasonings set up between fact and demon .. civilian and fighter .. defender and terrorist, 'freedom moleculean' and frackdevil

@pietypietduhpiouspoet6408: .. don't miss the raddest bike pump i never ever saw before at 9m46 of the link below

oops, i meant 9m29 .. a metal pillar encased thing at the edge of an empty 'PLot' .. u no, spaces to repel, impede and delay pumped Red revivees, i mean survivee sprout restouting ... sooner than later i hope ... in other words, the end of put up with parking lots to pave over paradise resprout prevention imperative can't begin soon enuff ... or everyday ethics will become as epigenetically snowed under and invisible as the true owners and heirs of the turtle isles ... before mass stampedes of displacees, fortune and gainful demobloat as proof of 'success' memery seekers, pried loose via bible vectored id inflammation displacees, began occupation army careers

sorry, .. but a post covid scape eeriness punctuated by a birbly bird on a branch here and there triggered me .....

---AA:
3rd minute you are weighting pieces of this puzzle wrong Mark
any 'ritie' themes are tabood and banished by and from the wokey 'oases' / crimedens ... case in point .. western support for Asov cause violence but not bycause they do the 'kommisarite' dirty work, therewith betraying what nazis pre co-optment by the waves of said 'mindsetters' all attempting the physically speaking hi bar but psychologically speaking low sink of atlanticrossing to justle for a posh posish in either woollyhodie or neoconkin ranks
---BB:
3rd minute you are weighting pieces of this puzzle wrong Mark
any 'ritie' themes are tabood and banished in, by and from the wokey 'oases' / crimedens ... case in point .. western support for Asov cause ..violence .. but not bycause they also do 'kommisarite' work.

Misnomering a sin as 'luxury' = step1 to .. clientele ....

delegatin 'dirty' work is decent dontchanowe???
Asov, etc, larp as pre-co-optivated' Nazis. Nazis workin w Zios to ground jews ..... but alas ... All that got opped to do something diametrically 'flipitydifffront' ... and that's just a past and present iteration of a loooong series, similar to what makes Stolypkin 3rd best known russian for example, givin jews the Pale to make honest workers of themselves .. who gave america to who again? Was that earlier or later than Dee doin jackpot riddle games and gambles with armee fundings for fun and stakes? Earlier than Bolshies?

so i agree with your bottom line but i insist goin down my track to reach working grasp levels for 'demogrievously fevermarish' material gets you there more honestly.

bout that 'america' bait n g[r]ift and 'frontaffront' some more:
.. set up by and for waves of said 'mindsetters' all attempting the physically speaking hi bar but psychologically speaking low sink of atlanticrossing to jostletussle justle for a posh posish in either woollyhodie or neoconkin ranks and damn the 'voetvolk' [footsoldiers, commoners, draftie draggie druggee ... foetsie feetsie fietsie masses to serf, sacrifice [allies and nazis :: rus and uke alike], hide amongst and use as
only a girl could hope to call attention to the violence prob and she wasn't allowed to get very far was she? your version of  the nerve she has is impeded and impinged by personal loss. i don't fault her for failing to kid you anymore than i fail you as a parent to her, real or apparant.







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"red de visserij nu het nog kan"?? En wanneer kan herheiliging van vissevoer weer?
Het fijnste steenverweersel moet onderweg naar vissen als vanouds beschermt en beveiligt zijn tegen alle gifstoffelijke stroomstoringen ...
mensen beroven kleinere en kleinste wezentjes hun chemie







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BlackRock is the Roman empire holding jesus in fort chester .. with a unique [for forts] precession mosaic to make him feel at home instead of in the quantanamo of the day.
slivers of me are turned into Blackrock mascotte/wedge fortda tool. i do not consent. please prosecute.




https://t.co/bJuv4BjG7q
'good mossad' op movie [????? not seen yet]


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https://x.com/PietyPoet/status/1812807140446196007
funny enuff i thought so too ... until seeing this footage .. he thought he got stung before hearing the shot .... is that possible ... wind is really quite something innit?

RD goes an hour an a half:
https://rumble.com/v56x5dx-teflon-don-survives-another-hit-job.html
what are the odds ...paused itself at 50:05 ... [/inside joke/wink]

now that i'm here: the ladder was attached ...

encore [also late last {coolEUside}nite:
aa warz 'speccitin' lots a durp larp vids with peeps burstin liddul behind the ear bloodbladders about nowish ... either that or Trumpie aint ZioGo[o{d}d] enuff

then, an hour ago i see 20s close up footage via flat earther [not followed yet, so Musk courtesee] and he claims 'bladders'; i go: see previous






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de wokedelegatie naar kiev = terug maar heeft het mensen van straat plukken nog niet vertaald naar mensen op straat te werk stellen ... even geduld nog terwijl de kommisarisme commissie vruchten draagt die hun levensroeping-voostelbaarheidseisen recht doen .. eh .. dragen ...

Trump kogel was een ziop [zio-op]. vraag is, van de goede of slechte Mossad zijde.
elke demonizatie is op de korrel nemen. de omgesmede, verpsiegelde vorm van schuld bekennen en schuld op schietschijf schuiverij .... voorbeeldje:
trump vermoorde de frack industrie in praktijk maar prees hen [de 'freedom molecule' schijn[lippendienst]beweging]
biden deed minder biocidale concurrentie regelrecht geopolitiek geweld aan om ruim baan te maken voor een 'techniek' die beloofd covid EN glyposaat .. met elkaar vermenigvuldigd EN ook alle klimaat effecten van onwenselijk menselijk handelen tot nog toe binnen de zelfde generatie voelbaar te maken. En die duivel behandelen we als vriend van bevriende mogendheid??





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https://theconversation.com/mexicos-planned-glyphosate-ban-helped-show-how-agroecology-can-lead-the-way-forward-229554







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Sean Last:

Seeing fringes on both sides make conspiracy theories about the same event, with leftists thinking it was staged and rightists thinking the deep state was involved, really highlights how much better the right is at conspiracy theories. Not even remotely close.

i think it's the other way around, Trump isn't as ZiOpPlus as Biden, hence bad mossad shot to kill if it was them, good mossad drilled a bloodbladder act ... which was my opinion until i saw he thought a horsefly got him

i am hoping for the former .. cause then he might be big madnuff to choose Shiva for mount meruca spinmate ... hold ya tropes n ropes fast n tight ya merrymates!!!!!

Hollywood branched out after merge n fuse w startup fundermobs [who set them up in the first place - George Webb looked into that recent months] to widen scope as far east as the sinosphere [LA Wuhan passes over Sandy Hook more or less]
They devolve from false flag flash mobops to round the clock sets [bribes and incentives displace wages, the sets are traps to 'sub{ject n ab}duct real, not fake victims, meant to set tone and 'examples' intended to deter and punish unbelievers, opt-outers, etcetera

all of today thus far posted to a Warren thread w 2888Vs
https://thepietypoet.blogspot.com/2024/07/productive-day-so-far.html
the middle of the bottom set was inspired by this thread

https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1812645675378544671
Ahab on X: "Let me explain my "nuance" on Trump: 1. People like that man who died shielding his family in Butler are the salt of the Earth. 2. People like Andrew Tate are the scum of the Earth. I have a deep empathy for regular folks who follow Trump because they've been totally" / X

Chain of fools - The Grayzone live

Who knows where the time goes? - The Grayzone live

Israel's state terror - MaxB w Ilan Pappe

whatever the sun hit mars with a few days ago is ricochetting right into the 'clearing' part of my thinkgland
"the radical walls of transparancy"
@KremlinRussia_E .. the world will be right behind you the minute you begin to stop these sickos .. and support will 'sunrocket' if you adopt my solutions, they are free.

"the walls of radical transparancy" to dot&heal our scapes ...  castle, city, monastery, thinktank & institution walls, all based on 'radical' obscuration & secrecy. Flip that & uptake of [patient/offender/inmate] cure [permie manuels] tossed over the walls right after'm fllws.

a few hours earlier i limbered up for the above as follows:

to khhhumus
nuke wake = constant care .. unless u can pour it into a gunk stream headed strait down .. but again, useful / pleasing combo = best .. let them have a sense of pride in sacred place setter uppers .. spaces for god to touch down ww, not touchin off wwX?
i'm talkin #VerticalTraffikingdomcomein2focus .. heaven's roots

 ..if those 'persons' fail to find at least 15 to join them and engage in the cure [including the funds to ensure hermeticity of  the wall erected around them, from the outside of course, for several generations to make the cure sure], then no

1930 bestseller Jews Without Money

... = hilite ...
1pm, finished a good one: midwest prof from kommie nest on one of his faves: Mike Gold 

.... the leftie vs zionist jewsoulsplit reflected in a real estate scheme. He also ran a nice mag. ... and more ...
hemmin n hawin alert ...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYvhWfiuFjg
jewish antiZ .. Letters and Politics
 A History of Jewish Anti-Zionism: From The Communist Party to The New Left
Letters and Politics
23.9K subscribers ---- 

13,726 views  May 8, 2024
Guest: Benjamin Balthaser is associate professor of multi-ethnic US literature at Indiana University, South Bend. He is the author of Anti-Imperialism Modernism: Race and Transnational Radical Culture from the Great Depression to the Cold War, and Dedication, a personal history of growing up in a Jewish "red diaper" family. His forthcoming book from Verso, Citizens of the Whole World:  The American Jewish Left and Cultures of Anti-Zionism, is due to be out this fall.


Piety Piet duh Pious Poet Adds a Comment: 

bet that book won't even come close to covering as many 'cultsurreal' tentacularpsyoperatrix as i do here:

+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+  - :: + :: -X- :: + :: - - :: + :: -X- :: + :: -
semi sem sems ------ my first 2 decades of this jewtury:

just don't be claimin nobody warned you
... here's nearly 3k pages for catch uppers:
happy nationalism jewideyots!
https://archive.org/details/happy-nationalism-jewideyots
pdf =1959p= 12Mb [covers 80s thru 2016]
12172 KB :: uploaded 3/31/21

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the up too close cringe version [with some distractions of what exactly i got sidetracked / derailed from .. before the happy end: my eyes opened to the fact i am not to throw pearls before swine]:

https://archive.org/details/piety-piet-close-up-or-closeted-up.
pdf == 5048 KB --- 9/10/22 [parts of it going back to the 90s]


2017 - 2022 -------- 9/11/22  = upload date == 5488 K = 754p
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https://archive.org/details/Cuck-Tale-Mixer-Uppers.pdf

semitizzumz
-- p4 - p285 = 27/4/2021 -  25/7/2022

... gendurz
-- p286 - p537 = 2015 - 2022/15/8

 -- pharmacopidues = my early takes on the Corona heist
-- p 538 - end = 25/1-2020 - 14/6-2022



217 Comments

@jmiller3415
6 days ago (edited)
It’s not surprising that the Jewish left — and much of the left in general — was optimistic about the future of the United States. Remember that Karl Marx was quite optimistic about the U.S. during his lifetime. Marx followed the U.S. Civil War closely, and was a huge admirer of Abraham Lincoln (particularly after Lincoln proved to be able to win the Civil War and to abolish slavery). Indeed, Marx thought that perhaps the United States would someday be able to become a Communist country without bloodshed, but rather through the vote (of black freemen and white working-class men), as the necessary bloodshed had occurred, in effect, during the Civil War.
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@sunnymitra6372
6 days ago
Proves that Marx never had any foresight or brain
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@jmiller3415
5 days ago
 @sunnymitra6372  Or maybe Marx used his intelligence to read into political/economic situations those things he wanted to see. High-level wishful thinking, in essence.
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@honeybeechanger
1 day ago
Yes yes you're right Marx was wrong about so many things.
@SteveGoldfield
9 days ago
There is a lot missing in this presentation. For example, two of the best-known Jewish anti-Zionists of the 1960s were authors and activists Alfred Lilienthal (he described himself to me as a Wendell Wilkie Republican) and Rabbi Elmer Berger, who was the executive director of the American Council on Judaism and later of American Jewish Alternatives to Zionism. Noam Chomsky, incidentally, described himself to me as a non-state Zionist. He said he was raised as a Zionist but opposed the creation of a Zionist state. Jewish anti-Zionists like myself and Hilton Obenzinger and many others were key leaders of the nationwide Palestine Solidarity Committee in the 1980s. Then there is the massive orthodox Jewish anti-Zionist movement which opposes Zionism on religious grounds. So there is a lot more to cover. Stalin, incidentally, thought Israel was going to be a socialist state, which was why he smuggled arms into Palestine in violation of the ceasefire agreement and then supported the creation of Israel.
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@beyondaboundary6034
8 days ago
Any recommendations for sources on the activists and organizations you mentioned?
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@SteveGoldfield
7 days ago
 @beyondaboundary6034  Books by Lilienthal and Berger are easy to find online. Both of them have wikipedia pages. There are a lot of books out there on Zionism and its history, including in the US. I hope to publish our interview with Elmer Berger as soon as I can get my hands on it. If I remember correctly, we interviewed him for a few hours. One of the things he told us was that Zionists took over the rabbinical seminaries (he was Reform; I don't know if that also happened in Conservative and Orthodox seminaries) in the 1940s. Stalin's role in smuggling arms to the Zionists via Czechoslavakia is well-known and is discussed in many books. Lenni Brenner's "Zionism in the Age of Dictators" covers the involvement of Zionists, particularly the most right-wing, with Mussolini and Hitler during WW II. Note that one of the three Zionist leaders to write to Hitler offering to fight with him against the British, Yitzhak Shamir, was later elected prime minister of Israel. That was widely known in Israel, though not in the US. Long ago, too long ago to remember where, I read a history of Zionism in the US, which praised Supreme Court Justice Brandeis for upholding Zionism when nobody would support it, which would have been about a century ago.
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@SteveGoldfield
7 days ago
I'll add one more prominent Jewish anti-Zionist with an interesting story. My old friend, Yigal Arens, is the son of a former Likud Israeli defense minister, Moshe Arens. Yigal and his uncle, Richard Arens, were and are both vocally anti-Zionist. Yigal is currently a professor at USC. I don't know if his uncle is still alive. Someone recently asked Yigal how and why he became an anti-Zionist. He tweets so much that I can't find it, but basically he said that he saw what was happening to the Palestinians and could not support it. He is worth following on Twitter because he uncovers so much, a lot of it in Hebrew, that you might otherwise miss.
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@johnwilsonwsws
6 days ago
@SteveGoldfield, you say "Stalin, incidentally, thought Israel was going to be a socialist state"  

I have seen that asserted a few times but never a source.  It seems unlikely given the inconsistent and opportunist history of Stalinism as well as the fact they didn't even expect socialism to emerge in the territories of East Europe that were occupied by the Red Army at the end of WWI^.   
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Please excuse the length of my comment below.  I have been trying to research this issue and just found the following which I think is of interest.

At Yalta in 1945 the following exchange happened
"  Marshall Stalin said the Jewish problem was a very difficult one - that they had tried to establish a national home of the Jews in Virovidzan but that they had only stayed there two or three years and then scattered to the cities.  He said the Jews were natural traders but much had been accomplished by putting small groups in some agricultural areas.
  The President [Roosevelt] said he was a Zionist and asked if Marshall Stalin was one.
  Marshall Stalin said he was one in principle but he recognized the difficulty"
(cited in "Stalin's Zionism" by Bernard D. Weinryb. Proceedings of the American Academy for Jewish Research

Vol. 46/47, Jubilee Volume (1928-29 / 1978-79) [Part 2] (1979 - 1980), pp. 555-572 (18 pages)

Published By: American Academy for Jewish Research.  Available on JStor)

Weinryb outlines various theses behind the Stalin's "Zionism" and the Stalinist support for the creation of Israel including
- [Stalin] ... may have "simply intended to placate 'the naivete and vanity' of President Roosevelt" (p.570)
- "Or Stalin may have mistaken Roosevelt's Zionism as an intention to dismantle Great Britain's world-wide status and expel her from the Middle East, as he was expressing his wish to participate in this process of dissolution of the British Empire." (p.570, same par. as above)
- "... the possibility of using the Jewish settlement as a nucleus for anti-English rule in the Middle East, and for penetrating the Jewish community through 'subversion and betrayal'" (p.571)
- One of Stalin's advisers at Yalta, the vice-commissar of Foreign Affairs Ivan Maisky, suggested Stalin become a "Zionist"

Weinryb notes that during this time (1942-1945) Stalin's antisemitism was increasing.  

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The Trotskyists have a more consistent assessment:  
"... In the 1920s, the Palestine Communist Party had fought for a unified movement of Jewish and Arab workers. However, the nationalist degeneration of the Stalinist parties found reflection in the PCP, which split into two sections along ethnic lines before the end of World War II. The Soviet bureaucracy completed its betrayal of the working class of the region by supporting the creation of Israel as part of its post-war agreements with imperialism. In contrast, the Fourth International advanced an internationalist position based on the unification of the working class. It wrote in 1948:

    "The Fourth International rejects as utopian and reactionary the “Zionist solution” of the Jewish question. It declares that total renunciation of Zionism is the sine qua non condition for the merging of Jewish workers’ struggles with the social, national and liberationist struggles of the Arab toilers. It declares that to demand Jewish immigration into Palestine is thoroughly reactionary just as it is reactionary to call for immigration of any oppressor people into colonial countries in general. It holds that the question of immigration as well as the relations between Jews and Arabs can be decided adequately only after imperialism has been ousted by a freely elected Constituent Assembly with full rights for the Jews as a national minority.[1]... "
[Socialist Equality Party (United States)  The Historical and International Foundations of the Socialist Equality Party (United States) The Establishment of Israel.
[1] Second World Congress of the Fourth International, “Struggles of the Colonial Peoples and the World Revolution,” Fourth International, July 1948, p. 157.]
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^ - In 1945 Klement Gottwald [leader of the  Communist Party of Czechoslovakia (KSČ)] said "in spite of the favourable situation, the next goal is not soviets and socialism, but rather carrying out a really thorough democratic national revolution". The KSČ  carried out a coup in February 1948 when it was clear they would lose the election. During this time Czechoslovakia supplied the bulk of weapons to the Zionists used in the 1948-49 war. See the Wikipedia entry "Arms shipments from Czechoslovakia to Israel"
@thecrimsondragon9744
5 days ago
What does 'non-state Zionist' even mean? Isn't that an oxymoron?
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@johnwilsonwsws
4 days ago
​ @thecrimsondragon9744  I thought 'non-state Zionist' referred to those advocating migration to Palestine with legal and peaceful coexistence under whatever authority existed.  (I haven't studied this but as far as I know there were groups calling for migration from the 1860s or 1870s, well before the WZO was founded in 1897).

It should be noted that in 1862 Moses Hess wrote From Rome to Jerusalem, 35 years before the WZO.  He wrote:
- “The Jewish popular masses will participate in the great historical movement of modern mankind only when it will have a Jewish homeland.”
-  “Why fool ourselves? The European nations have always perceived the existence of Jews in their midst as an anomaly. We shall always be strangers among nations … The Germans hate less the Jewish religion than they hate their race … Neither religious reform nor baptism, neither Enlightenment nor Emancipation will open the gates of social life before the Jews.”
-  France, “will help the Jews to found colonies which may extend from Suez to Jerusalem and from the banks of the Jordan to the Mediterranean.”

Theodore Herzl later commented that if he had been familiar with Hess’s book, it would not have been necessary for him to write his own Der Judenstaat, the Jewish State.

For a discussion of this history read/watch:
  Genocide in Gaza: Imperialism descends into the abyss
  https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/11/20/jhqc-n20.html
  World Socialist Web Site
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@JeffShacter
4 days ago
How does it feel to hate yourself?
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@jacovawernett3077
2 days ago
Steve, are you still anti Israel? My Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. God is my Father and rabbi. ( I was born March 11th in Bethlehem) God spoke fifty sentences to me from above to my ear. His first nine sentences to me were 8.4.2015 in the morning. Since then I have told people and timestamped many prescient visions that came true.
11.17.2015, Eve Beach, Waikiki, early evening. I couldn't find a book reading so I sat under the stars alone. God asked me, What side of the blade are you on. I answered, The side of the righteous my words are my sword. He then showed me my ascension to Heaven. He said, Make Israel one. You are anchor. Note the noun Israel. It's a name and country. God's last sentence to me was four years ago after many months. He said one sentence. You are Princess Messenger of.
In Aramaic, Amira Malaka Elah.
Death to Israel is against God's will. L'chaim
@davidgamble955
5 days ago
This deserves a second listen
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@nawafdreams
9 days ago
 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:

00:00  History of Jewish anti-Zionism in the US
- Anti-Zionist Jewish activism has roots in the first half of the 20th century, particularly in the American left and Communist Party.
- The speaker's guest, Benjamin Bazer, is an expert on this topic and discusses the evolution of Zionism in the Jewish community.
01:10 ️ Challenging the "Zionism as Jewishness" narrative
- The consensus that Zionism is central to Jewish identity is a relatively recent development, emerging in the 1970s.
- Prior to this, major Jewish institutions like the ADL and American Jewish Committee were focused on a range of issues, including civil rights and aiding Jewish refugees.
- Zionism only became the dominant focus of these organizations after the 1967 Six-Day War.
04:52 🇺S Shift in US support for Israel after 1967
- The US government's strong support for Israel after the 1967 war was a key factor in the growing association of Zionism with American liberalism and patriotism.
- The portrayal of Israel as a scrappy, militarily superior ally against Soviet-backed Arab nationalists resonated with the American public at a time when the US was struggling in the Vietnam War.
- This US "love affair" with Israel led many American Jews, particularly liberals, to align their Jewish identity with Zionism and support for the Israeli state.
09:00 🇺🇸 Zionism as American identity
- The Zionist consensus among American Jews emerged at a time when Jews were being "incorporated into mainstream whiteness" and suburban middle-class life.
- Supporting Zionism became a way for American Jews to assert their identity as both good Jews and good Americans.
- This is now being challenged, especially by younger Jews, who see aligning with the Israeli state and its military actions as antithetical to older Jewish traditions of supporting civil rights and democracy.
12:10  Jewish left's anti-Zionist stance in the 1930s
- In the 1930s, the Jewish left, including the Communist Party which had a large Jewish membership, saw Zionism as a form of ethno-nationalism aligned with fascism.
- They critiqued Zionism for aligning the interests of the Jewish working class with the Jewish bourgeoisie, rather than pursuing internationalist, anti-imperialist goals.
- This perspective saw Zionism's alliance with British imperialism as antithetical to the interests of the oppressed.
17:24  Limits of "socialist Zionism"
- Even some left-wing Zionist groups like Hashomer Hatzair recognized that the practical reality of building a Jewish state would inevitably involve violence and the expulsion of the native Palestinian population.
- This conflict between socialist ideals and the nationalist project of statebuilding was a source of unease and disillusionment for some on the Jewish left.
- The long Jewish tradition of opposing state violence and seeing nation-states as inherently threatening to vulnerable minority groups also influenced the Jewish left's critique of Zionism.
22:49  Jewish left's critique of state violence
- The Jewish left has a long-standing tradition of seeing state power and nationalism as fundamentally dangerous for vulnerable minority groups like Jews.
- This perspective views the violence and displacement inherent in nation-building projects like Zionism as anathema to Jewish values of non-violence and opposition to oppression.
23:29  Mike Gold and the anti-Zionist Jewish left in the 1930s
- Mike Gold was a prominent Jewish leftist writer in the 1930s whose novel "Jews Without Money" portrayed Zionism as aligned with bourgeois, reactionary politics.
- Gold's novel presented Zionism as a project of Jewish middle-class suburbanization and assimilation into whiteness, in contrast with the multiracial, working-class solidarity of the Jewish left.
- The anti-Zionist views expressed in Gold's work were common among the Jewish left in this period, seeing Zionism as a nationalist movement at odds with internationalist, anti-imperialist leftist politics.
29:14  The impact of the Holocaust on Zionism
- The role of the Holocaust in driving support for a Jewish state is often overstated, as even after the Holocaust, the Jewish left continued to oppose Zionism.
- While the influx of Jewish refugees created demographic pressure, the Jewish left argued that a Jewish state should not be created by displacing the indigenous Palestinian population.
- It was the Soviet Union's surprise support for partition and the creation of Israel in 1947 that was a major turning point, leading many on the left to begrudgingly accept Zionism.
35:56 ️ Anti-Zionism and the American left in the 1950s-1960s
- During the Red Scare and McCarthy era of the 1950s, the American left was preoccupied with defending against anticommunist persecution and repression, causing Israel-Palestine issues to take a backseat.
- However, the 1960s saw a resurgence of anti-Zionist politics on the left, as the Six Day War and the Palestinian liberation struggle became tied to broader Third World decolonization movements.
- Many prominent figures of the 1960s New Left, including Jews like Noam Chomsky and Abbie Hoffman, were vocal critics of Zionism and supporters of the Palestinian cause.
43:25 ️ The complex relationship between Jews and leftist politics
- While there has historically been a strong connection between Jews and leftist/progressive movements, this is not an inherent or automatic relationship.
- The modern state of Israel, with its right-wing governments, demonstrates that being Jewish does not necessarily make one a leftist.
- However, the Jewish left's critique of nationalism, state violence, and support for the dispossessed has deep roots in Jewish history and tradition, contributing to this longstanding association.
44:32  The Jewish Enlightenment and liberal politics
- The French Revolution's granting of citizenship to Jews marked the beginning of a "Jewish Enlightenment" and association between Jews and liberal, pluralistic values.
- As a minority group historically facing persecution, Jews have often thrived in tolerant, secular societies, leading to a stereotype of Jews as natural liberals.
- However, this relationship is complex, as the modern state of Israel demonstrates that being Jewish does not automatically make one a leftist.
45:57  American Jewish leftism as a distinct tradition
- Contrary to the notion of socialism as a "foreign import" to America, American Jewish leftism had deep roots in 19th century Jewish immigrant communities.
- The interaction between German socialists fleeing repression and Yiddish-speaking Jewish immigrants in cities like New York and Milwaukee fostered the growth of a unique American Jewish socialist tradition.
- This Jewish left saw parallels between the struggles of Jews and African Americans, leading to a strong alliance with civil rights movements.
50:21 🇺🇸 Jewish communists as American patriots
- Many Jewish communists and socialists in the early 20th century saw their leftist politics as compatible with, or even integral to, being a good American.
- They viewed America's formal democracy and pluralism as providing opportunities for organizing and advocating for their values that were denied to Jews in other contexts.
- This patriotic strain within the Jewish left led to a sincere embracing of American symbols and institutions, even as they critiqued the country's racism and oppression.

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@phillipblair9511
8 days ago
Some of these are some of my recent ancestors; their memory is a blessing!
Any ancestors who were doing bullying like Apartheid-Zionism or Kahanism, they are rejected by us. Anyone being a bully now, especially when they NOW KNOW better, they will be rejected by their descendants too.

Thank you both!
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@JasonCunliffe
9 days ago (edited)
I recommend everyone to read and listen to
Tony Greenstein
"Zionism During the Holocaust  ~The Weaponisation of Memory in the Service of State and Nation"

Marvellous book
2022
Terrific resource
and his online interviews, articles related to this conversation and more

Very important voice and research
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@lanceroberthough1275
7 days ago
The confirmation bias of this man is incredible azra the list of things that he is conflating. Proof that anyone can write a book.
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@dl1361
10 days ago
Thanks. A very interesting interview
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@victormeidan1062
8 days ago
The elephant in th phone booth is demographics.
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Israeli Jews have the highest birth rate in OECD at 3 kids per couple.  This means a100,000 increase annually.  US Jews are shrinking with 40% not marrying and a very low birth rate for those that do.  The future geographic dispersion of World Jewry is obvious.
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@kennethhymes9734
6 days ago
Fantastic guest, subscribed. One quibble, not perhaps important to the thrust: can Israel be said to have defeated "soviet backed arab nationalists"  (in quotes only to denote that this is Balthasar's characterization, not mine) single handedly? Surely the hand of the US and a few other countries sending money and providing military infrastructure is part of the picture?  And just broadly speaking... whatever Israel has was either taken from the Palestinians or brought in from outside... so it is pretty much not a thing for Israel to do ANYthing "single handed," no?
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@RobinHerzig
7 days ago
Looking forward to this book  great interview thanx
@315pasha
7 days ago
Great channel. Great interviews. Thank you for making serious content in a world where nonsense sells. Good work!
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@michaelfoley3777
7 days ago
Brilliant thanks!
You simply must interview Dr Yaakov Shapero?
In doing so, will give All viewers a much greater understanding of, "what is the true meaning of Zionism!!!
Sincerely Michael Foley

So I Married An Autogynephile... | A Detrans Story, with Jules Louise

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 So I Married An Autogynephile... | A Detrans Story, with Jules Louise ------- Benjamin A Boyce ---- 92.1K subscribers ---- 7,700 views  Premiered May 13, 2024  DeTrans Stories -- Jules Louise opens up about her trans and detrans journey, and finding love with a self-professed autogynephile (@RayAlexWilliams). --- Detrans Stories: https://bit.ly/DeTransStories

twitter.com%2FJulesGeezLouise

This ex-lesbo's biromantrix glue duh stix 2 autogyn partneurhub [who did a book and one vid, .. i think Ben said he was part of the DeTransStories but i might be misremembring .. [it's been more than 3h and more importantly, i was dividing my attention .. costing me horribly yesterday btw, lost nearly half of my pron faves {{pics, that is, from 70 to 40}} intending to just eliminate 1 double {{thumb of tumblershort w teen on german tram doin a quick rubselfie, in the top 3 in my single digit 'most wanked to' list}} in the process of backing them up] .. but at show-end we are left with a prospect she might bring him along next time ...  

speaking of ex lesbos, a few hours later [around 3am, wake as a solar storm resonated bell] i see a rumble thumb intriguing enuff to spend a few mousemovements and tapit{streyee}:

https://rumble.com/v4v5clf-millstone-report-w-paul-harrell-lgbt-psyop-and-strategy-used-against-americ.html

.. leads to an Asheville site where i learn
 'acceptance is not approval':

https://wng.org/articles/the-long-game-1714509753

.. and author 'Bouterfooled' further says this in her timeline intro:

  I heard He was bigger than my lesbianism (Matthew 11:28-29). I later came to believe that Jesus, the God-man, suffered, died, was buried, and was resurrected to justify people like me.
Jason Maas ---- 5 days ago: Great essay, but I’m here to gush over Krieg Barrie‘s wonderful Candyland-inspired illustration. Wow! I kinda want a poster size print, even though it tells an incredibly sad story.

JUNE 2015: In Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court of the United States, in a 5-4 decision, legalized gay marriage in all 50 states and added the “dignitary harm clause,” expanding the legal definition of harm to now include failure to “affirm” one’s LGBTQ identity. Five years later, in Bostock v. Clayton, the Supreme Court added LGBTQ to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. And just like that, homosexual “orientation” went from a fringe 19th-century Freudian mistake to our nation’s reigning idol. Today, 30 percent of Gen Zers (18- to 25-year-olds) believe they “are” LGBTQ—a steep jump from 3.4 percent in 2004.


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also claims that marriage is baked into creation ... what? that qualifies her to lose tenure over in my 'book'. Not sure what this is about:

Rosaria is a former tenured professor of English at Syracuse U

Not the only unnatural thingie she lost obviously:

https://wng.org/sift/a-wheaton-discussion-of-homosexuality-1617252147
A Wheaton discussion of homosexuality
Former lesbian Rosaria Butterfield found controversy and opportunity on her recent visit to a Christian college campus

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"unhindered" but not 'openING UP' to Putin i guess ... even tho, ..Jules take note... this was written in 2015, the year Putin signed the 'familienlandsitz' / 'kindomain' / homesteading for russo hippies laws .. effectively deeding land as rewards for 'openwoke' immunity and in little danger of being taken up/over by those crazy 'openers' ...

... we are slowly realizing OPEN is just an antisemitic word with cosmopolitan pedigree ... and so the danger of israel4.0 donning ruraly rootsie 'vedic' tarnung is not out the questZion at all, specially given their {{umpteenth?}} project is blowin itself up with an attempt of evidence erasure so monstrous WWII seems to have only been a preview in hindsight .. and prolly always was in 'clearsight'.

https://wng.org/sift/answering-difficult-questions-on-sexuality-and-salvation-1617251626

Answering difficult questions on sexuality and salvation
An excerpt from Rosaria Butterfield’s sequel: Openness Unhindered: Further Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert on Sexual Identity and Union with Christ

https://wng.org/articles/a-chat-with-rosaria-butterfield-1714512551

maybe later ... enuff for now ... the rumble thumb has the candyposter i found on the Asheville site sharing space with a bookcover btw:

AFTER THE BALL [on fear and hatred of duh troo .. i mean gey ... by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen .. and for completeness sake i should mention the ugliest [white] part of the thumb is the bottom fifth taken up by 'GAY INCREMENTALISM'

ps: i wanna try the community thing also / still .. also still on #remineralize basis, ... perhaps we can ask KingJohn.UK for an audience on suggestions .. he seems to know about digging up rocks of legends for some 'unification' or other. no doubt he has taken my 'meeperwat' hints to heart and is just 'son of a glitch Biden' his time like we all are .... AND he seems to be up to date about stunning horses in the running but again, all bets off as long as the 'morpharmafiya' remains in possession of 'vergunning' .. free to run up the clock n road initiatives into poisoned ground ... cause of all the gendershite myopia in the first vicious place ... but not even Ben has time for that, AJ dropped it ... every body except little old perfectly shadowbanned as complement to homegrown shadespensational obscurity me.